As the American people begin to slowly discover what is inside the 2,700 pages of the Affordable Care Act, we’re going to begin hearing, “how did that get in there?”.
The elected officials responsible for creating and passing the bill will then claim that they have no idea who put that in there.
We then end up with ridiculous laws and no one to blame for them.
Portions of huge bills like the Affordable Care Act are written by anonymous staffers, lawyers and special interest groups behind closed doors. They hope no one will notice what they put in there until after the bill becomes law and it’s too late to do anything about it.
The White House has a web page titled, “Transparency and Open Government” where President Obama states, “My Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government.” Let’s put that to the test.
Please sign my White House petition asking President Obama to advocate for a law requiring that any new legislation identify all persons who contribute to its creation. Every bill created by Congress should be required to identify all persons involved in the creation of the bill and which section of the bill they wrote. Every section or paragraph must have a name attached to it before the bill can be voted on. The link is provided below.
Red Forman
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A waste of time. Obama did not follow thru on any of his promises from the 08 election, what makes you think he will follow thru on this?
Remember the “I will post all laws three days before voting?”
Who in our congressional delegation acutally read it?
Shea-Porter? I doubt it. Shaheen, unlikely.
The people voted, let them find out for themselves what is in it.
Martin, I appreciate your comments and I’m not holding my breath that Obama would do anything about it. My point was to force the White House to respond. Get them on record. Every petition that reaches 25,000 signatures gets a White House response.
Yes, the people voted! So let it rest. Didn’t congress vote 33 times to repeal it? What a waste of time and taxpayer money! I think a better question would be to find out why? Or as we already know and have proven: what lobbist group told them to try and kill it.
Worst Congress in history!
Don’t forget what Nancy (Bella Lugosi) Pelosi said. “We need to pass the bill before we can find out what’s in it”. What? Nuff said about the way congress operates.
What is really sad is that people keep voting the sam shmucks back in to office and expect different results. If the American public really wanted change they would do something about it. I think we have become a society that builds itself on dysfunctionality. We have the power to make real change but we let ourselves be bamboozled over and over. And it keeps happening at every level, even here in Londonderry at the local level.
Mac, you are correct that it keeps happening “even in Londonderry” As I recall the larger percentage voted for Romney. However, the NH population did vote for change and as I recall it was a “clean sweep”. It is only a shame that every position in Congress wasn’t up for a vote. I would bet the broom would have come out again as well.
Clean sweep? We put 2 partisan hacks in office (one that we already swept out of office once already) that will contribute to the already stalemated bickering that goes on in Washington. These two women will rubber stamp anything coming from the Demoratic leadership and will not keep the best interests of the people in mind. They have the party first mentality that is killing this country.
All the seats in Congress were up for grabs. They are every 2 years. The Senate is a different story. So my point stands that this country just keep recycling the same hacks and there is some expectation that result will be different.
Let’s see if there is a big change in the 2014 mid terms. By then the full impact of tax hikes and economic downturn will be in effect. Then again, the country re-elected the jug eared idiot.
The big problem with presidential elections is that a lot of people go to vote for a certain presidential candidate and know nothing of the rest of the names on the ballot. But they go ahead and start checking names off, usually based on partisan party politics. Mid terms tend to be a little different. The “casual” voters tend to stay home and the more informed voters tend to show up. We will see if these sweeping tax hikes that we’re all being forced to pay will make a difference once they are in full bloom.
Mac, casual voters, more informed voters, that’s bull spit.
That was the same garbage used for town meetings!
However, I do agree with “The big problem with presidential elections is that a lot of people go to vote for a certain presidential candidate and know nothing of the rest of the names on the ballot”. I would ammend to just knowing nothing!
Since were on the topic, let me ask: As Red Forman wrote himself: “As the American people begin to slowly discover what is inside the 2,700 pages of the Affordable Care Act”
For the past year all I have been reading from mostly this group is it’s bad for America. So, a year ago did you read or even understand the Affordable care act? Do you even today know what it is about today?
I asked several republican’s why it’s bad and got no answer? Hmmm, how could that be? You want the answer or can you get there on your own?
You don’t think anybody voted based on repealing the Healthcare act without know what’s it’s about do you?
The reason it is bad is simply because it was voted on without any real knowledge of what is in it. As an employee of a small business I have been hit by some of the rules (a year before the rest of the population will get hit). Everything now costs me HUGE amounts more than it ever has. My insurance is not worth the price of the paper it’s written on. This is the crap that politcians signed off on (including Mrs. Porter, the hack that we put back in office). I think the Reps you spoke of knew this but their answer was not to your satisfaction so you say they gave no answer. Most of the people that wanted to repeal the bill were not opposed to some kind of health care reform (including Mitt Romney). They just wanted to pull the current piece of garbage off the books so a real debate could take place and real reform could happen. The only people making out on the current heathcare bill are the insurance companies (who basically wrote the bill to begin with).
People that vote only in presidential elections are casual voters. They are usually bamboozled by the phoney commercials instead of real facts. So they are also uninformed.
Poor misguided folks. I guess the saying is true: “You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink”. Perhaps some of you caught John Kerry’s speach regarding Eliziabeth Warren’s appointment? Hmmm?
He stated: She will bring common sense to the office (my favorite phrase) and will NOT be swayed by “special interests”
OK, let again have an excercize in free thinking. What does that statement mean?
1) Confrim that special interests are real? It’s reported 8 lobbist for every member of congress. 6/8 either for OIL or Insurance.
2) “She won’t be swayed”. Meaning others have been or are currently??
This is the real change that was voted for!
We are getting back to “We the people”; dispite the efforts (writitngs) of an insurance company paid dollar!
The idea that Liz Warren will not be swayed by special interests is pure bull. She is a partisan hack.
You shouldn’t call the first Native American Senator from Massachusetts a hack
How about Hackawatha?
I like “Princess Spreading Bull”.
You guys crack me up. The Rep. party is solely responsible for Elizabeth Warren getting elected. I must admit even I liked Scott Brown, as I don’t side strickly on party lines. It was the Right wing nut mind set that got her elected. Even though Brown tried his best to say “I’m not like those guys” when the tide went out it took everything with it. Just trying to you “informed”
Actually, what got her elected was the “D” after her name. It’s pretty much how the world works in Mass (and here in NH too often).
I stopped listening to John Kerry when I found out he lied about throwing away his medals to pretend being outraged…or was it when he accused American soldiers of atrocities to begin his political career?
John Kerry is corrupt and having him say that Liz Warren won’t be swayed by Washington corruption is a blatant lie (she already is a Washington croney). Why should we listen to anythign this man has to say? His record is one of deception.
Steve,
Just remember all tides that go out do come back. The 2010 mid terms decimated the dem party in the house and badly hurt them in the senate. The full effects of tax increases and policy changes will be just in time for the 2014 mid terms.
Don’t forget about gun control. As usual, every time Democrats win an election they announce that the Republican Party is finished and then they over-reach. They are over-reaching again with talk of gun control. Every time Marxist Democrats go after guns they lose elections. 2014 should be fascinating.
I hear you. People are funny. They want change but if doesn’t happen in an instant they can turn against you. Case in point: 8 years to run up a 10 trillion dollar deficit, bankrupt the country etc. President Obama takes office, couldn’t fix the mess in 3years (or less) and an absolute disaster like Romney almost gets elected. People are narcissistic for sure!
final thought:
Q: Do you think if Congress stops sitting on (squashing, blocking) the bill to repeal Oil subsides (~35 Billion) seeing as this is what the Big Oil posts for profits every QUARTER!!!; it would lesson or negate the tax impact of the Affordable Healthcare Act? Or, do you think they will spend there time writing 33 more bills to repeal Healthcare for 50 – 100 million men, women and children (21 Million)?
Maybe just keep it for 1 year to cover the tax portion of Healthcare? Just asking.
Nevermind, silly questions.
Funny how you worded that. It didn’t take 8 years to reach a $10 trillion debt. It took 237 years. George W. Bush is responsible for $4.9 trillion in 8 years despite 9-11, two major wars and a housing bubble collapse started by yet another Democrate program called “Community Reinvestment Act of 1977″. What Obama inherited was the fall-out of the Jimmy Carter legacy. Obama is responsible for over $6 Trillion after only 4 years. A good portion of that is probably from all the expensive vacations he takes with his family using separate jets.
Red is right. For some reason people believe the lie that Clinton had a clean slate when he left office. Completely untrue. It is true that neat the end of his term the annual budget was balanced, but there was still 5 trillion in defecit on the books. In fact, the deficit rose over Clinton’s 8 years.
Steve,
All congress and the prez will do is spend what ever money they get and then some. Why pay off the debt or reduce the deficit when someone else will be stuck with it?
Well what we are we talking about the budget or deficit???? There is a difference. However, thank you Mac for agreeing the budget was balanced (with a surplus).
I’ll consider that a first step to enlightenment!
Yup, and we’re still waiting for the federal fiscal budget for 2010 to be passed. Not to mention 2011 and 2012. Oh and 2013 as well. New attitude: operate without a budget and noone can see how much of a deficit we actually have.
Steve, you are the one that said Bush ran up $10 trillion in debt. I have to assume you meant the deficit because that was the number when Bush left office. Of course, the lefties (Harry Reid being one of the biggest fibbers) have been spreading the lie that everything was zeroed out when Clinton left office. I guess $5.6 trillion is the same as zero. The fact is that Clinton increased the deficit when he was in office (like all presidents have).
It should also be noted that it was not until later in his term that Clinton “balanced” the budget and it was only because of the pressure he recieved from the Rep. congress at the time. So it was a join effort, something we are not seeing happen in Washington these days.
OH I almost forgot. Your democratic leadership is on the job!
Elizabeth Warren and two other DEMOCRATIC senators have written AIG CEO stating: “Very Bad idea to sue the Government”!
Funny no republican letters, like that’s a suprize! I know there haven’t been “told” what to do yet.
Did Elizabeth Warren threaten to scalp them?
I have an answer for all of you.
Let’s elect a POOR man to office?
Steve Homsey for President????
Even though we are on opposite sides politically, I’ll be your running mate. We could call it the Bill & Steve party. Better still we could call it the BS party for short. Oh wait. I think congress has that moniker already.
Deal
Jeez Steve, you just can’t win. -4 votes for the word “deal”? Yikes!!
Yeah, too funny. I could have left the post blank and still got -4. Think people might be trained or brainwashed when they see my name?
Steve,
Watch out for flying pigs. I gave you my first + vote ever.
Thanks Bill. I wish that did it for me. Unfortunately, that is not why I post.