A New Ride for Londonderry Police

Here is a look at the new Ford Interceptor, the new face of the Londonderry Police Department.  When the police found out that Ford had discontinued the Crown Victorias the department went looking for the vehicle that would best suit the department’s needs.

Chief William Hart, Capt. Gerald Dussault and Lt. Timothy Jones gave a PowerPoint presentation to the Budget Committee in September 2012 on how the department can save money, in addition to having room in the budget for the new cruisers.  The vehicles are paid for through the cruiser maintenance trust fund, which contains about $160,000. The new fleet is expected to cost about $110,000, but that amount could change.

Every three years, the department signs a lease for new cruisers, all the old cruisers are being traded into Ford of Londonderry.   The new vehicles will be outfitted with new gear and equipment. Existing radios and laptops can be used in the new vehicle, but the Interceptors will need new cages and other vehicle specific equipment.

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  1. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Frank R

    Cruiser Maintenance Trust Fund? Curious as to where this “Trust Fund” came from. I also remember reading in the Londonderry Times that the amount of cruisers was going to drop from 21 to 17. Is this because the new Ford Interceptor, or should I say Ford Explorer is more expensive? Was there something out there that would have allowed the PD to continue with the 21 cruisers that they had and still save money? Why the sudden switch from a sedan to an SUV? Why buy a fleet of new cruisers (And by that I mean different) and not buy new equipment to go with them?

    Lots of questions here, lots of questions.

    1. Vote -1 Vote +1Myke

      Frank, they are only getting 17 new cruisers so they can use the rest of the money for a helicopter!

  2. +7 Vote -1 Vote +1Steve

    Frank and Myke you guys are way off. The extra money is needed ($65,000 for working part time) to pay a person to drive the vehicles to the dealer or repair station for maintenance and repairs. The maintenance guy does no service in house, everything goes out to get done. Wouldn’t you like to be retired collecting $70,000 a year on the towns pension and work part time doing the same job (glorified chauffeur) for another $65,000. That is a joke and the council allows it to go on and on. We are entering the budget process and the same dog and pony show will be put on for the taxpayer and no waste will be cut. Let s see which departments get reductions and which ones continue fat and happy.

    1. -3 Vote -1 Vote +1Ken McLoon

      Solution: Pension reform. A state or town pension should say that you will receive $X in retirement. You get a job that pays $Y, your pension payment is now $X – $Y.

      Never happen, but a good compramise.

  3. +5 Vote -1 Vote +1FactorFiction

    Does anyone know if what Steve is saying is true? Or is this some Londonderry myth. I would like to know that truth. If it is. That is a little extravagant to be paying someone to drive cars around.

    Mommy don’t let your babies to grow up to be cowboys, engineers, doctors, lawyers, truck drivers, or anything. Let them grow up to be government workers.

    1. +5 Vote -1 Vote +1Steve

      FactorFiction. It s on record the Police Chief went in front of the council and said he wanted this part time position and was going to fill it with the person that was retiring and doing the same thing at the time. A councilor asked what the pay was and the police Chief said $65,000 a year for the part time position. A councilor (O’Keefe) stated that is a lot of money for a part time position and the position was approved by the council. It is fact and in the council minutes.

      1. +4 Vote -1 Vote +1Frank R

        It’s called the “Good Ole Boy” Club. Very exclusive.

  4. -10 Vote -1 Vote +1Jenn

    Even though this is related to the Fire Dept and not the PD, I’m still curious why every night on my way home, I see an “Official LFD” vehicle parked outside of someone’s home. Every night…is there an emergency there every night? Seems like an obvious misuse of Town property to me. If it’s ok, then can I borrow it to pull my camper?

    1. Vote -1 Vote +1Frank R

      Jenn, the Chief of Police has a take home cruiser too. It’s not uncommon.

    2. -1 Vote -1 Vote +1Tim Patten

      It probably would be OK for campers. Chips on shoulders? Not so much.

    3. +11 Vote -1 Vote +1mike

      Jenn,
      Said Firefighter is required to bring it home as he is the Fire Marshall/Inspector… he is required to respond directly to any fire 24-7 365 to investigate said cause of any possible fire…. it is not for any chips on shoulder’s or pulling campers… he uses it only for transportation needed during work at LFD. not for any other use. Please be educated for making rude remarks, thank you

  5. +3 Vote -1 Vote +1Gary

    The lack of knowledge of Inner workings of a working police and fire department amazes me.

    All over the country, Fire chiefs and fire Marshall’s take their vehicles home. Because they are to respond to calls 24 seven.

    Now about the police vehicles. Ford has stopped production of the crown Victoria. Police departments all over the country are looking to replace their vehicles with different makes and or models from other manufacturers.

    We live in New Hampshire, SUVs great all-around utility vehicles they carry a lot more equipment and they’re safer in the wintertime why would you not want this for your our police dept.

    A lot of people walk around with horse blinders on. I’ve been a scanner listener for almost 30 years and I have 7 years in the fire service and over 15 years covering spot news for news papers.

    Most people only know of what they read or hear, and that is very limited info.

    They asked why do you need this why do they need that.

    When there is a snow storm on the ground and you call the police for help you’ll be glad to know they have an SUV’s

    1. +3 Vote -1 Vote +1Bill

      So let me get this right. You’re critisizing someone that isn’t informed for asking a question to become more informed?

    2. +6 Vote -1 Vote +1Bill

      I wish more people in this town asked why do you/we need this or that.

    3. +3 Vote -1 Vote +1Mike D

      Gary, not to pick a fight but…

      The PD is getting Explorers. For less money they could have gotten the Taurus which also has all wheel drive and gets better gas mileage. As for the trunk, they didn’t seem to have any problems with the trunk of the Crown Vic. I for one do not see the need to pay a premium for the Explorer over the Taurus. Wasted funds in my opinion.

      1. -1 Vote -1 Vote +1JC

        Actually, I believe they are getting INTERCEPTORS. These are purpose-built law enforcement vehicles which use either the Taurus or Explorer vehicles as a simple starting point. Much like the difference between a Hummer and a military Humvee – they look similar, but are very different vehicles.
        See here: http://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/#

        Patrol officers spend much of their day in the vehicle — it is an essential tool for their job and, like their vests, gun, radio, etc., adds a considerable safety component to their work environment. If we need to spend the money on police cruisers anyway, why not buy the best tool for the job?
        I don’t think police equipment is the place to cheap out.

        1. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Bob

          You are correct JC. They are getting Ford Explorer Police Interceptors. In other words, the Ford Explorer with options that a regular person can get with the turbo motor at Londonderry Ford. Nothing different.

    4. +4 Vote -1 Vote +1Lance G

      The amount of off-road or blizzard work does not justify a full fleet of SUVs, a few yes, but not a full fleet. I own a new Taures AWD and prefer to drive that over my PU in snow. I can’t see how a SUV would be very good in a police chase anyway, but bigger toys are always better when you don’t have to pay for them. If the role them just by more.
      Our PD is just like any other government department, the more they want, the more they get, they don’t have to pay for it someone else will.

  6. +3 Vote -1 Vote +1Mike D

    JC, the cars are virtually the same as the civilian models. Most changes are to the interior. The rest of the car is basically the Taurus SHO. Same thing for the Explorer. Don’t be fooled. Like I said, for $2000 less they could have gotten the Taurus instead of the Explorer. Both have all wheel drive and would be fine for New England weather. So goin with the Taurus would not be “Cheaping out”.

    1. Vote -1 Vote +1Billy D

      I owned a Taurus SHO. Fast car, but completely useless in the snow. We live in New Hampshire. How can anyone see an issue with the police driving SUV’s? They’re better in the snow and for getting into a wooded area. After all….how can the police hassle hunters and people shooting target practice in the Musquash if they can’t go off road? Maybe we should look into purchasing some ATV’s and police horses to go along with the new helicopter and Drones.

      1. Vote -1 Vote +1Mike D

        Billy, what year was your SHO? If it was one of the older ones, it didn’t have all wheel drive like the new cruisers will have. Also, the Explorer and the Taurus are built on the same platform. The chassis of both vehicle are the same. So essentially both vehicles are going to have the same characteristics when it comes to driving. Biggest difference will be the Explorer has a higher center of gravity which will make it more prone to rollovers. Also, if the PD invests is snow tires, there will be a big difference as opposed to the all season radials that come with the vehicle.

      2. Vote -1 Vote +1Mike D

        As for the ATV’s the PD has them altho I haven’s seen them out recently

  7. -5 Vote -1 Vote +1Mike

    Some of you people are so rediculous, Go be in there shoes for a day. If you had to get in and out of a car all day long, what do you think would be easier? an SUV or a car. we all know the answer. As for there trunks, next time you see an officer as him if you can take a look inside his trunk. then give him about five minutes to shut it when you are done, becuase it is so jam packed. between riot shields, emergency gear, and anything else that may be in the trunk of a cruiser, it is by no means easy to take something out from the bottom of the pile. with the SUV you will have more room, allowing the officer to get to whatever he may need in a much quicker amount of time.

    Yes the could have gone with the taurus, but it would not have solved any of their current problems. and to say an SUV isn’t important to have in New England is rediculous.

    1. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Mike D

      Mike, you apparently haven’t seen the trunk of an LPD cruiser. They are not full at all.

      And what current problems are you speaking of?

      Maybe you should do some research because it seems to me that you have no idea what you are talking about.

    2. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Bill

      The cargo area in this SUV is VERY similar to the space in the trunk of a Crown Vic. The only difference is that the SUV sits higher making the cargo area a LITTLE more accessable.

  8. Vote -1 Vote +1Glen

    The Ford Interceptor SUV is often being chosen by police departments in the Northeast because of a number of factors. Each agency has different needs and many agencies are choosing the Ford SUV Interceptor because of winter weather driving ability, ease of equipment installation, officer comfort, durability, cargo capacity and driver cabin equipment capacity.

    Officer comfort is not important to some but there are financial advantages to be had by reducing expensive back injuries. These are often caused by sitting in cramped cars wearing full duty belts and body armor for long shifts and manifest themselves while entering and exiting lower riding cars in full police gear.

    Agencies in other parts of the country might be looking for a higher top speed or better gas mileage and might not care as much about the better resale value and durability offered by the SUV. Some agencies in more open areas also like the more aggressive pursuit sedans but this is less of an issue in the northeast.

    A lot of agencies everywhere would like the Tahoe due to improved ergonomics and the ability to handle the largest officers, largest prisoners and most cargo but the Tahoe is a little too big and too expensive for many agencies. A lot of agencies are also very comfortable working with Ford because of existing long term relationships.

    You can look at all of the 2013 police vehicle specs here: https://www.justnet.org/pdf/VehicleTestBook2013.pdf

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